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Gov. Jerry Brown said this evening that California is losing manufacturing at a rate no faster than the rest of the country, telling the TV show host and former Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm the problem is a national one.

"This is the place where Facebook started, where Hewlett-Packard started, where Steve Jobs built Apple Computer just a few miles from where we're sitting," California's Democratic governor said on Current TV's "The War Room with Jennifer Granholm. "This is a place of innovation."

Granholm told Brown, "When I was governor of Michigan, I would come here and try to get people in Silicon Valley to take their technology to scale in Michigan, because California seemed to be so expensive."

Brown defended his state, saying California "has lost manufacturing at about the same rate as the rest of America, so this is a national problem."

Said the former Michigan governor: "Oh, for sure."



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