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    <title>Drawing fair political boundaries</title>
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    <published>2008-10-05T03:17:48Z</published>
    <updated>2008-10-05T12:20:53Z</updated>

    <summary>To comment now, click here.This week&apos;s topic: redistricting.Should legislators draw their own political districts, or should that job be given to an independent citizen&apos;s commission?Daniel Curtin, director of the California Conference of Carpenters, favors Proposition 11, which would create a...</summary>
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        <![CDATA[<font style="font-size: 1.5625em;">To comment now, <a href="http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/the_conversation/2008/10/015894.html#comments_here">click here</a>.</font><br /><br />This week's topic: redistricting.<br /><br />Should legislators draw their own political districts, or should that job be given to an independent citizen's commission?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/the_conversation/2008/10/015894.html#comments_here">Daniel Curtin</a>, director of the California Conference of Carpenters, favors Proposition 11, which would create a 14-member commission to draw district lines, following a strict set of guidelines that would prohibit lines that favor or discriminate against any politician or political party.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.sacbee.com/740/story/1287634.html">Leon Panetta</a>, a former Democratic congressman from Monterey and former chief of staff to Bill Clinton also supports Proposition 11. Panetta says it would reduce partisanship by creating districts more likely to elect independent-minded moderates.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.sacbee.com/740/story/1287633.html">Steven Reyes</a>, a Los Angeles lawyer and former counsel to the Mexican American Legal and Educational Foundation, agrees. Reyes helped write Prop. 11 and says it would help minorities by preventing the Legislature from splitting up communities to protect incumbents and party interests.<br /><br />But <a href="http://www.sacbee.com/740/story/1287660.html">Arturo Vargas</a> of the National Assn. of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials, says the measure would hurt minorities because the commission would not necessarily be diverse. Vargas also says the process, by allowing legislators to continue to draw congressional lines, would force watchdogs to monitor both the commission and the Legislature at the same time, spreading them thin.<br /><br />And <a href="http://www.sacbee.com/740/story/1287664.html">Eric McGhee</a>, a researcher at the Public Policy Institute of California, shares the results of a recent PPIC report concluding that California's gerrymandered districts are not to blame for the partisan polarization in the Legislature. That trait, McGhee writes, was there before the current districts were drawn and would likely remain even if Prop. 11 were to pass.<br /><br />Who should draw the lines?<br /><br />Please join the conversation by commenting below.<br />.<br /><br /><br />&nbsp;<br /><br />&nbsp;<br />]]>
        
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    <title>Fundamental reform -- does California need an overhaul?</title>
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    <published>2008-09-28T08:01:01Z</published>
    <updated>2008-09-26T21:37:52Z</updated>

    <summary>To comment now, scroll down. The topic: reforming California government. For this week&apos;s pieces, see the links on the right under &quot;latest stories.&quot; With disgust toward state government rising to new levels, it&apos;s a good time to ask if the...</summary>
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<p><strong>The topic: reforming California government.</strong></p>
<p>For this week's pieces, see the links on the right under "latest stories."</p>
<p>With disgust toward state government rising to new levels, it's a good time to ask if the moment has arrived for fundamental reform in the way California does business.</p>
<p>I've written the lead piece, an overview of the situation and a quick look at three possible approaches to enacting comprehensive change in California government. We've also got four writers opining on three of those potential avenues of reform.</p>
<p>Jim Wunderman, president of the Bay Area Council, advocates a constitutional convention. The Bee's Stu Leavenworth also takes a look at the mechanics of how such a confab might work.</p>
<p>Bill Hauck, president of the California Business Roundtable, was chairman of California's most recent constitution revision commission. He discusses&nbsp;the potential and pitfalls of that approach.</p>
<p>Steven Hill, director of political reform for the New America Foundation, writes on the idea of a Citizens Assembly.</p>
<p>I've also compiled a summary of ten possible reform ideas that might find their way into a package of comprehensive change submitted to California voters.</p>
<p>Thanks for reading. </p>
<p>Does California government need fundamental reform? If so, what kind?</p>
<p>Please join the conversation by commenting below.</p>
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    <title>A carless California</title>
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    <published>2008-09-21T12:02:24Z</published>
    <updated>2008-09-21T12:16:29Z</updated>

    <summary>To comment now, click here.This week&apos;s Conversation is about the future of the automobile in a carbon-stressed world.The lead essay is by Daniel Lerch, author of &quot;Post Carbon Cities&quot; and program manager at the Post Carbon Institute. Lerch says our...</summary>
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        <![CDATA[<font style="font-size: 1.5625em;">To comment now, <a href="http://www.sacbee.com/dyn/comments/standard/comments_separate.html?uri=http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/the_conversation/2008/09/015539.html&amp;o=d&amp;ud=u&amp;avatar=n&amp;tie_to=9999015539&amp;url_type=1&amp;headline=A%20carless%20California">click here</a>.</font><br /><br />This week's Conversation is about the future of the automobile in a carbon-stressed world.<br /><br /><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/the_conversation/carlesscali.JPG"><img alt="carlesscali.JPG" src="http://media.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/the_conversation/assets_c/2008/09/carlesscali-thumb-300x195.jpg" class="mt-image-right" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 20px 20px; float: right;" width="300" height="195" /></a></span>The <a href="http://www.sacbee.com/740/story/1251435.html">lead essay is by Daniel Lerch</a>,
author of "Post Carbon Cities" and program manager at the Post Carbon
Institute. Lerch says our entire environment is built around the car
and it won't be going away anytime soon. But he believes we could
quickly adapt to a much more intensive use of public transportation,
bicycles and walking if we want to. And he points to examples in Europe
and the United States where people are doing just that. An excerpt:<br /><br /><blockquote><p>With a peak oil conference in Sacramento this week and the 100th
anniversary of the first mass-market automobile coming up, it's a
perfect time to re-visit our relationship with that most ubiquitous
icon of the American (and California) Dream: The Car.</p><p>Ford's 1908
Model T didn't just mark the start of widespread private automobile
ownership. It heralded the complete restructuring of America around
petroleum-powered cars and trucks. By mid-century we had discovered
massive oil fields in Texas and the Middle East, and World War II had
effectively modernized our industrial base. The stage was set for the
true mass consumption of the car, a shift that would fundamentally
change our economy, our landscape and even our culture.</p><p>These
days it's pretty well accepted that we can't all drive everywhere.
California was home to some of the earliest suburban sprawl, so its
metropolitan areas experienced early on what happens when everyone
tries to drive everywhere: unending congestion (despite more and bigger
highways), more sprawl and overall greater dependence on oil. </p>

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<p>For years we've tried to limit sprawl and promote transit, bicycling
and walking - first in the name of conservation and quality of life,
more recently to fight global warming. Today peak oil (the looming high
point of global oil production) and the end of cheap oil make it more
urgent than ever to reduce our dependence on cars.</p><p>There's a
problem, though. We're stuck with the landscape we've built over the
past 60 years, much of which is literally uninhabitable without a car.
Trying to make our communities less car-dependent simply by adding more
buses, streetcars and light rail is like trying to make a bowl of
chicken soup vegan simply by picking the chicken out. It's just not
that simple: like the chicken broth in my chicken soup, car dependence
is an inherent property of nearly every city, town and suburb in this
country and especially so in car-loving California. <br /></p></blockquote><p>To read the rest, <a href="http://www.sacbee.com/740/story/1251435.html">go here.</a></p><a href="http://www.sacbee.com/740/story/1251449.html">Sam Staley</a>,
director of urban and land use policy for the Reason Institute, writes
a brief rebuttal. He thinks it would be a mistake for the government to
adopt policies discouraging the use of the automobile. An excerpt:<br /><br /><blockquote><p>Adopting a policy objective to reduce automobile use would be poor
public policy, reflecting little more than a knee-jerk political
reaction to a long-term environmental problem.</p><p>True enough, the
passenger automobile is an important source of carbon emissions, but
it's not the most important contributor. Industry takes that spot. More
importantly, cars emit carbon because of the fuel they use, and that
fuel source will likely change dramatically over the next several
decades even without interventions from government.</p><p>Electric
hybrid technologies already have the capability of cutting carbon
emissions in half within certain classes of vehicles (e.g., four-door
sedans), and more than 65 hybrid models will be available on the
American auto market by 2010. Plug-in electric technology is close to
becoming commercially viable at today's energy prices, and an electric
power system that relies increasingly on nuclear energy, wind, and
hydroelectricity means we can reduce carbon emissions without
sacrificing the mobility provided by the automobile. </p>

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<p>More fundamentally, public policy focused on significantly reducing
automobile use in favor of other travel modes - whether it is mass
transit,bicycling, or walking - betrays a stunning naivete about travel
or a brazen disregard for the needs of everyday Californians.</p></blockquote><p><br /></p><p>To read the rest of Sam's comment, <a href="http://www.sacbee.com/740/story/1251449.html">go here</a>.<br /></p><br /><a href="http://www.sacbee.com/740/story/1251464.html">Tim Holt</a>,
a freelance writer who lives in Dunsmuir, explores one technique cities
are using to encourage a new way of looking at the urban landscape: the
temporary closure of streets to vehicles. An excerpt:<br /><br /><blockquote><p>There's an easy, inexpensive way for Sacramentans to experience
car-free streets. It's called a "ciclovía," or "cycle way" in Spanish.
Every Sunday, Bogota opens up 81 miles of its streets to pedestrians
and cyclists. It's a healthy exercise in open-air democracy: Families
from the city's richest to its poorest neighborhoods mingle together in
this year-round event.</p><p>Bogota pioneered the event 30 years ago as
a way to promote public health. With record levels of obesity in the
U.S., it's welcome news that the ciclovía is starting to gain a
foothold here. This summer Portland, New York, and San Francisco have
all had their own ciclovías, each one six or seven miles long, with
Chicago and Baltimore ready to follow suit.</p><p>Imagine folks from
Meadowview, the Pocket area, Curtis Park, and Land Park enjoying a
car-free Freeport Boulevard, linked to midtown, and pedal-powered folks
in east Sacramento cruising down Folsom Boulevard. The U.S. ciclovías
have generally steered away from a "street fair" approach, avoiding the
vendors that can take business away from neighborhood shops and
restaurants. Instead, they've emphasized free activities for adults and
kids - including free tango, yoga, and bike repair classes.</p></blockquote><p>To read the rest of Tim's comment, <a href="http://www.sacbee.com/740/story/1251464.html">go here</a>.<br /> </p><br />What do you think? Should the government try to get us out of our cars?<br /><br />Please comment by <a href="http://www.sacbee.com/dyn/comments/standard/comments_separate.html?uri=http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/the_conversation/2008/09/015539.html&amp;o=d&amp;ud=u&amp;avatar=n&amp;tie_to=9999015539&amp;url_type=1&amp;headline=A%20carless%20California">clicking here now</a>.<br /><br /><br /> ]]>
        
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    <title>Dropping out, adding up</title>
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    <published>2008-09-13T11:43:57Z</published>
    <updated>2008-09-14T12:35:43Z</updated>

    <summary>To comment now, go here.This week&apos;s topic: high school dropouts. Nearly one-quarter of California students never make it to graduation, creating what might be the state&apos;s biggest social problem. High school dropouts are more likely to commit crimes, lead unhealthy...</summary>
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        <![CDATA[<font style="font-size: 1.95312em;">To comment now, <a href="http://www.sacbee.com/dyn/comments/standard/comments_separate.html?uri=http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/the_conversation/2008/09/015351.html&amp;o=d&amp;ud=u&amp;avatar=n&amp;tie_to=9999015351&amp;url_type=1&amp;headline=Dropping%20out%2C%20adding%20up">go here</a>.</font><br /><br /><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/the_conversation/grads.JPG"><img alt="grads.JPG" src="http://media.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/the_conversation/grads-thumb-220x146.jpg" class="mt-image-right" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 20px 20px; float: right;" width="220" height="146" /></a></span>This week's topic: high school dropouts. <br /><br />Nearly one-quarter of California students never make it to graduation, creating what might be the state's biggest social problem. High school dropouts are more likely to commit crimes, lead unhealthy lives and need public assistance, hurting themselves and costing society billions of dollars a year.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.sacbee.com/740/story/1232568.html">The lead piece</a> is by one of the state's top experts in the subject: UC Santa Barbara Professor Russ Rumberger. Among other things, Rumberger points out that over the past five years, the number of dropouts in California has increased nine times faster than the number of graduates. Much of that is thanks to a new, more accurate way of counting dropouts, but the overall number - 24 percent - is a huge cause for concern. Rumberger, who heads the California Dropout Research Project, also offers four ideas for stemming the tide.<br /><br />We've also got four guest commentators to get the conversation started:<br /><br /><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/the_conversation/dropoutrates.gif"><img alt="dropoutrates.gif" src="http://media.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/the_conversation/dropoutrates-thumb-200x317.gif" class="mt-image-left" style="margin: 0pt 20px 20px 0pt; float: left;" width="200" height="317" /></a></span><a href="http://www.sacbee.com/740/story/1234239.html">Seetha Ream-Rao</a> is a junior at a Sacramento charter school. She gives a student-eye view on why so many kids drop out and what can be done about it.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.sacbee.com/740/story/1234243.html">Samuel McKissack</a> was a dropout himself, mainly due to drug and alcohol abuse. But he cleaned himself up, got a high school diploma and is now working full time. He suggests kids need an "emotional education" in addition to their academic work.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.sacbee.com/740/story/1234244.html">Alan Bonstee</a>l, president of California Parents for Educational Choice, says county continuation schools are the unnoticed dropout factories in California, and their existence allows regular schools to artificially reduce their dropout rates by sending kids to the county for a quick stop on their way to dropping out for good.<br /><br />Finally, <a href="http://www.sacbee.com/740/story/1234251.html">Mark Wardlaw</a>, a Santa Rosa music teacher, says the state's one-size-fits-all academic standards and expectations are a major cause of the problem. Students who are not college-bound, he says, give up in frustration.<br /><br />What do you think is at the heart of the problem, and what should we do about it? Please comment below.<br /><br />Do you have questions about this topic? If so, <a href="mailto:dweintraub@sacbee.com">email me</a> and I will try to run down the answers.<br /><br /><a href="mailto:dweintraub@sacbee.com"><i>Daniel Weintraub </i></a>]]>
        
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    <title>Food fight</title>
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    <published>2008-09-06T23:54:30Z</published>
    <updated>2008-09-09T23:59:25Z</updated>

    <summary>To comment now, click here.This week&apos;s Conversation topic: Mandatory nutrition labeling. Should the state require restaurants to disclose the number of calories in every item on the menu?Do you know how many calories are in what you eat? Answer these...</summary>
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        <![CDATA[<span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="DISPLAY: inline"><img class="mt-image-right" style="FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 20px 20px" height="354" alt="shake.JPG" src="http://media.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/the_conversation/shake.JPG" width="180" /></span><br /><font style="FONT-SIZE: 1.56em">To comment now, click <a href="http://www.sacbee.com/dyn/comments/standard/comments_separate.html?uri=http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/the_conversation/2008/09/015172.html&amp;o=d&amp;ud=u&amp;avatar=n&amp;tie_to=9999015172&amp;url_type=1&amp;headline=Food%20fight">here</a>.</font><br /><br />This week's Conversation topic: Mandatory nutrition labeling. Should the state require restaurants to disclose the number of calories in every item on the menu?<br /><br /><b>Do you know how many calories are in what you eat? Answer <a href="http://www.sacbee.com/740/story/1214401.html">these four questions</a> to test your knowledge. Of 523 Californians surveyed, none got them all right, and nearly 70 percent missed all four. Can you do better?</b><br /><b><br /></b>Read my take <a href="http://www.sacbee.com/740/story/1214388.html">here</a> on SB 1420, a bill that the Legislature has passed and sent to the governor's desk. It would require restaurant chains with 20 or more locations to post calorie information in menus or on menu boards. The bill seems certain to raise awareness about calories. But will it change behavior?<br /><br />Read our guest commentators:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.sacbee.com/740/story/1214390.html">Harold Goldstein</a>, director of the Public Health Advocacy Center and a major backer of SB 1420:<br /><br /><br />
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<p>"Calorie sticker shock." That's what people are experiencing in New York City since a new ordinance went into effect there in July requiring chain restaurants to post calorie information on menus and menu boards. For the first time people can easily see, for example, that a cheeseburger and large fries at McDonald's has fewer calories than a blueberry muffin and a Venti Mocha Frappucino at Starbucks.</p>
<p>Californians will see that same simple, straightforward information at fast food and other chain restaurants if Gov. Schwarzenegger signs SB 1420. Right next to the price on the menu board, customers will be able to compare the calorie content of their food and beverage choices.</p>
<p>In recent years a number of fast- food chains have begun to promote healthier items. Requiring calorie information on menu boards will support those marketing efforts and allow consumers to make informed choices. Chains that sell good-tasting, lower-calorie foods will thrive; chains that don't will watch their sales decline. That's how the free market is supposed to work. <br /></p>
<p>Read the rest <a href="http://www.sacbee.com/740/story/1214390.html">here</a>.<br /></p></blockquote><br /><br /><a href="http://www.sacbee.com/740/story/1214387.html">John Graham</a>, director of health care policy at the Pacific Research Institute. He opposes nutrition labeling: <br />
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<p>The latest deployment in the war on obesity is upon us. SB 1420, sponsored by state Sen. Alex Padilla, D-Los Angeles, will require California fast-food restaurants to post the amount of calories in every item on their menu boards. SB 1420's backers believe that when we're forced to see the numbers, we'll do the math and change our eating habits.</p>
<p>Two scholars at the University of California, Berkeley, put on their rose-colored glasses and concluded that SB 1420 could cause California to avoid 50 million pounds of extra weight a year. That best-case scenario includes people who eat fast food seven times a week losing 5.4 pounds a year. Earth to Berkeley: Someone who eats at Burger King seven times a week is not going to pay attention to these numbers.</p>
<p>SB 1420 is likely more about junk lawsuits than junk food. The trial lawyers have been busy developing a business strategy to profit from fast food since an infamous New York case five years ago, where a couple of obese girls sued McDonald's.</p>
<p>Read the rest <a href="http://www.sacbee.com/740/story/1214387.html">here</a>.<br /></p></blockquote>
<p>Last year Gov. Schwarzenegger vetoed a similar bill. But he is expected to sign SB 1420 because the restaurant industry has joined the coalition backing the proposal. Read his veto of last year's bill <a href="http://www.sacbee.com/740/story/1214389.html">here</a>.</p>
<p>Should the government require restaurant to post calorie information for every menu item?</p>
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<p>The American Heart Assn. was listed as a supporter SB 1420 in the final Senate staff analysis before the vote, but a rep for the association tells me that the group now opposes the bill as it sits on the governor's desk. Here is why:&nbsp;</p>
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<p dir="ltr" style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><b>"While we are indeed champions of menu labeling, I write to inform you that we recently pulled our support and now oppose the bill.<br /></b></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><b>As one of the original co-sponsors of SB 1420 it was difficult for us to remove our support, but amendments taken during the final week of the session prompted us to make this decision.&nbsp; Specifically, the preemption language mentioned in your article "This prevents local governments from implementing their own local provisions," caused us to change our position. <br /></b></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><b>We have learned from our long history with tobacco legislation that local preemption is bad policy and cannot be permitted to take root in state law.&nbsp; To have a flawed bill used as a model to be replicated over and over with preemption language was something the American Heart Association decided that it could not condone. It was our vision all along that SB 1420 would be a floor, and not a ceiling, that would preclude local governments from implementing potentially stronger menu labeling laws in the future.</b></p></blockquote>
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    <title>The Budget: Assessing the governor&apos;s middle way</title>
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    <id>tag:www.sacbee.com,2008:/static/weblogs/the_conversation//51.14999</id>

    <published>2008-08-31T04:07:49Z</published>
    <updated>2008-08-31T12:13:57Z</updated>

    <summary>To comment now, click here.Today&apos;s Conversation topic: the state budget impasse, and Gov. Schwarzenegger&apos;s proposal to end it it.Schwarzenegger has proposed a temporary, one-cent increase in the sales tax to be followed by a quarter-cent cut in that same levy....</summary>
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        <name>Daniel Weintraub</name>
        <email>dweintraub@sacbee.com</email>
        
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        <![CDATA[<br /><font style="font-size: 1.5625em;">To comment now, click <a href="http://www.sacbee.com/dyn/comments/standard/comments_separate.html?uri=http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/the_conversation/2008/08/014999.html&amp;o=d&amp;ud=u&amp;avatar=n&amp;tie_to=9999014999&amp;url_type=1&amp;headline=The%20Budget%3A%20Assessing%20the%20governor%27s%20middle%20way">here</a>.</font><br /><br />Today's Conversation topic: the state budget impasse, and Gov. Schwarzenegger's proposal to end it it.<br /><br />Schwarzenegger has proposed a temporary, one-cent increase in the sales tax to be followed by a quarter-cent cut in that same levy. He also proposes $2 billion less in spending than the Democrats who control the Legislature. And he wants an expanded rainy day fund that he says would smooth the ups and downs in the state's budget cycle by banking money in boom years and then drawing it down when the economy slows.<br /><br />You can read my take on that plan <a href="http://www.sacbee.com/740/story/1197179.html">here. </a>My bottom line: Yes, it's a compromise, but it wouldn't solve the state's ongoing fiscal problems because much of it rests on temporary solutions.<br /><br />Read Schwarzenegger's take on his own plan <a href="http://www.sacbee.com/740/story/1197175.html">here</a>.<br /><br />Schwarzenegger's proposal is opposed by all four leaders in the Legislature. The Democrats say it spends too little, the Republicans say it spends too much. The Democrats say it taxes too little, the Republicans say it taxes too much. And the Democrats don't like the rainy day fund because, they say, it restrains the growth of government too much. The Republicans don't like it because, they say, it doesn't restrain government enough.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.sacbee.com/740/story/1197178.html">Here</a> is Senate Leader Don Perata's take.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.sacbee.com/740/story/1197173.html">Here</a> is Senate Republican Leader Dave Cogdill's opinion.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.sacbee.com/740/story/1197174.html">Here</a> is Assembly Speaker Karen Bass on the governor's plan.<br /><br />And<a href="http://www.sacbee.com/740/story/1197176.html"> here </a>is Assembly Republican leader Mike Villenes.<br /><br /><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/the_conversation/budgetmultiyear.html" onclick="window.open('http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/the_conversation/budgetmultiyear.html','popup','width=320,height=156,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false"><img src="http://media.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/the_conversation/budgetmultiyear-thumb-320x156.gif" alt="budgetmultiyear.gif" class="mt-image-none" style="" width="320" height="156" /></a></span><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> <div><br /></div>]]>
        
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<entry>
    <title>Sunday topic: Guv&apos;s latest budget plan</title>
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    <id>tag:www.sacbee.com,2008:/static/weblogs/the_conversation//51.14990</id>

    <published>2008-08-30T03:21:57Z</published>
    <updated>2008-08-30T03:26:08Z</updated>

    <summary>This Sunday&apos;s Conversation will focus on Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger&apos;s latest budget plan. We&apos;ll parse the plan and its potential impact, then let the four legislative leaders go at it. Please come back Sunday morning and join the Conversation....</summary>
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        <name>Daniel Weintraub</name>
        <email>dweintraub@sacbee.com</email>
        
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        This Sunday&apos;s Conversation will focus on Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger&apos;s latest budget plan. We&apos;ll parse the plan and its potential impact, then let the four legislative leaders go at it. Please come back Sunday morning and join the Conversation. 
        
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<entry>
    <title>Juvenile crime in California -- less than meets the eye?</title>
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    <id>tag:www.sacbee.com,2008:/static/weblogs/the_conversation//51.14899</id>

    <published>2008-08-27T16:10:08Z</published>
    <updated>2008-08-28T04:28:10Z</updated>

    <summary>I have been corresponding with Mike Males of the Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice, who believes the public is probably unaware of the general trend toward a reduction in juvenile crime over the past couple of decades. Here is...</summary>
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        <name>Daniel Weintraub</name>
        <email>dweintraub@sacbee.com</email>
        
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        <![CDATA[I have been corresponding with Mike Males of the Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice, who believes the public is probably unaware of the general trend toward a reduction in juvenile crime over the past couple of decades. Here is his latest email to me with some new numbers that are pretty startling:<br /><div><font face="Arial" size="2"><br /></font><blockquote><font face="Arial" size="2">The state Department of Justice just sent me the 
new, 2007 crime statistics, and here is what they show:</font>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">--235 juveniles were arrested for murder, 5.0 per 
100,000 population age 10-17, the same&nbsp;rate as in 1958 (and lower than any 
year in between).</font></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">--241 juveniles were arrested for rape, the lowest 
level since that offense was first tabulated in 1957 (when 331 juveniles were 
arrested for rape in a population less than one-third today's).</font></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">--6,880 juveniles were arrested for robbery, the 
lowest rate since 1968.</font></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">--</font><font face="Arial" size="2">10,607 juveniles 
were arrested for aggravated assault,&nbsp;about the same rate as in 1973, when 
assault was defined much more narrowly.</font></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">--</font><font face="Arial" size="2">66,191 juveniles 
were arrested for felonies, the lowest rate since the first statewide crime 
report in 1954.</font></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">--200,820 juveniles were arrested for all criminal 
offenses, the lowest rate since 1966, when many fewer juvenile offenses were 
subject to criminal arrest (most were then defined as "status" 
offenses)</font></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Are&nbsp;readers and viewers of California's news 
media aware that juvenile crime, especially serious crime, is at an historic 
low? You can ask around, but I'm betting that the answer is "no." In fact, I'd 
bet that far more think juvenile crime, violence, and murder&nbsp;are rising to 
record peaks. Isn't that the impression many interest groups and the news media 
constantly present?</font></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Suppose the news media were to present these facts, 
easily documented and checked, to citizens. Imagine the impact of the 
statements: "Youths today are no more likely to commit murder and other serious 
crime than youths of the 1950s...In fact, middle-aged crime rates have 
skyrocketed to the point that 40-agers actually present a bigger crime problem 
now than juveniles do..." </font></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">If believed--a big if--California's entire crime 
debate would be turned upside down. Which, if I may be cynical, is exactly why 
the truth about crime trends will not be presented in the media. There are too 
many interest groups invested in lending the opposite impression, and the news 
media simply goes along.</font></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">best regards,</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Mike Males</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Center on Juvenile and Criminal 
Justice</font></div><div>&nbsp;</div></blockquote><br /> </div>]]>
        
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<entry>
    <title>Gang violence: Is a tax hike necessary?</title>
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    <id>tag:www.sacbee.com,2008:/static/weblogs/the_conversation//51.14837</id>

    <published>2008-08-24T13:17:26Z</published>
    <updated>2008-08-25T20:56:44Z</updated>

    <summary> To comment now, click here.This week&apos;s topic: gang violence.San Jose has found some success with a community-based program focused on reaching kids where they live, go to school and hang out. The city awards about $4 million in grants...</summary>
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        <name>Daniel Weintraub</name>
        <email>dweintraub@sacbee.com</email>
        
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<p><br />To comment now, click <a href="http://www.sacbee.com/dyn/comments/standard/comments_separate.html?uri=http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/the_conversation/2008/08/014837.html&amp;o=d&amp;ud=u&amp;avatar=n&amp;tie_to=9999014837&amp;url_type=1&amp;headline=Gang%20violence%3A%20Is%20a%20tax%20hike%20necessary%3F">here.</a></font><br /><br />This week's topic: gang violence.<br /><br />San Jose has found some success with a community-based program focused on reaching kids where they live, go to school and hang out. The city awards about $4 million in grants each year to two dozen or more non-profit community groups that offer counseling, education and intervention programs.<br /><br />The program might be an alternative to the $50-million a year tax increase proposed by some Sacramento leaders, or it could be a model for how to spend a big chunk of that money.<br /><br />You can read my piece on this program <a href="http://www.sacbee.com/740/story/1179189.html">here.</a><br /><br />A Sacramento youth organizer and a drug and alcohol counselor offer their views <a href="http://www.sacbee.com/740/story/1179189-p3.html">here</a>.<br /><br />For what it's worth: San Jose, while twice the size of Sacramento, is a far safer place:<br /><br /></p>
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<p><br /><br /><br /><strong>UPDATE. I just got this response from Don Meyer, the president-elect of the Calfiornia Probation Officers Assn:</strong></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">The Chief Probation Officers of California (CPOC) has supported and continues to support rehabilitative programs that work effectively to reduce re-offense.&nbsp; So it was with great appreciation that we read your August 24, 2008 article, <u>Gang Violence and the way in San Jose,</u> which acknowledges our collective experience:&nbsp; evidence based programs with measurable outcomes, delivered with fidelity and fiscal accountability reduces recidivism.</font></p>
<p><br /><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Of particular interest was the data supplied in the article "About 20 percent of the youths served were gang members, an additional 31 percent were gang supporters and the rest were described as 'high risk'."&nbsp; There is ample scientific evidence that several programs, when delivered with fidelity, reduce recidivism in both delinquents and adult offenders. Some examples are Aggression Replacement Training (ART) and Functional Family Therapy (FFT), to name a few. A great deal of research on correctional programs has been conducted over the past thirty years that validates effectiveness of some programs and destructiveness of others.&nbsp; Significant and encouraging information can be reviewed at the Washington State Information of Public Policy website (WSIPP), which confirms my previous statements.</font>&nbsp;<br /></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"></font>&nbsp;</p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">We know the following:&nbsp; Risk to reoffend is directly related to at least eight criminogenic indicators.&nbsp; These include a history of anti-social behavior, anti-social personality pattern, anti-social attitudes, anti-social associates, family/marital issues, education/employment issues, substance abuse, unproductive use of leisure/recreation time.</font>&nbsp;<br /></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">For a community to address crime (including gang issues), research indicates you must adhere to three principles.&nbsp; <b>Risk principle</b>:&nbsp; To maximize effect on recidivism, treatment should be targeted toward higher risk, rather than lower risk offenders and the population of treatment groups should not be aggregated by risk (one size does not fit all).&nbsp; <b>Need Principle</b>:&nbsp; Treatment should be targeted toward dynamic risk factors, also known as criminogenic needs.&nbsp; These are risk factors that can be changed (e.g. substance abuse, gang involvement, anti-social thinking) as opposed to those that are static (e.g., prior record) <b>Responsivity Principle</b>:&nbsp; Treatment should use behavioral and structured social learning rather than unstructured, nondirective, or "getting tough" approaches.</font>&nbsp;<br /></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">One of the ongoing sources of frustration for community corrections has been the lack of a dependable revenue source, funds that are held hostage by budget crises, and a general lack of understanding about how to address crime reduction scientifically and effectively.&nbsp; It is clear that consistent funding needs to be provided to local community corrections which includes probation, community-based organizations, treatment providers, jails, juvenile institutions and the entire law enforcement component.</font>&nbsp;<br /></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"></font>&nbsp;</p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">What is also increasingly clear is that the community and the taxpayers should demand accountability and results for the funding it provides.</font>&nbsp;<br /></p>
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<entry>
    <title>Sunday&apos;s Conversation: street gangs</title>
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    <published>2008-08-22T22:54:22Z</published>
    <updated>2008-08-22T23:10:47Z</updated>

    <summary><![CDATA[This week's Conversation topic will be street gangs. I'll be taking&nbsp; a look at a program in San Jose that emphasizes community action to help kids stay out of trouble. The San Jose approach uses grants to community-based nonprofit groups...]]></summary>
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        <name>Daniel Weintraub</name>
        <email>dweintraub@sacbee.com</email>
        
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week's Conversation topic will be street gangs. I'll be taking&nbsp; a look at a program in San Jose that emphasizes community action to help kids stay out of trouble. The San Jose approach uses grants to community-based nonprofit groups to reach troubled kids where they live, go to&nbsp;school&nbsp;and hang out.</p>
<p>That $4 million program stands in contrast to the the $50 million-a-year anti-gang program that some Sacramento leaders propose, which would be financed by a quarter-cent increase in the sales tax.</p>
<p>Please return to this space Sunday for links to my piece and other&nbsp;comments on this topic, and to join the conversation.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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<entry>
    <title>Think Globally, eat locally: is food grown nearby always best?</title>
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    <published>2008-08-17T10:52:52Z</published>
    <updated>2008-08-17T12:34:40Z</updated>

    <summary><![CDATA[To comment now, click here. Include your name and hometown if you would like your comment to be included in next Sunday's print edition.&nbsp; This week's Conversation is about local food -- and why so little of what we eat...]]></summary>
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        <name>Daniel Weintraub</name>
        <email>dweintraub@sacbee.com</email>
        
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        <![CDATA[<p><font style="font-size: 1.5625em;">To comment now, click <a href="http://www.sacbee.com/dyn/comments/standard/comments_separate.html?uri=http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/the_conversation/2008/08/014625.html&amp;o=d&amp;ud=u&amp;avatar=n&amp;tie_to=9999014625&amp;url_type=1&amp;headline=Think%20Globally%2C%20eat%20locally%3A%20is%20food%20grown%20nearby%20always%20best%3F">here.</a></font></p>
<p>Include your name and hometown if you would like your comment to be included in next Sunday's print edition.&nbsp;</p>
<p><b>This week's Conversation is about local food -- and why so little of what we eat is grown near where we live.</b></p>
<span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/the_conversation/foodpicture.JPG"><img alt="foodpicture.JPG" src="http://media.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/the_conversation/foodpicture-thumb-220x157.jpg" class="mt-image-right" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 20px 20px; float: right;" height="157" width="220" /></a></span><p>The Bee's Stuart Leavenworth writes the <a href="http://www.sacbee.com/740/story/1161254.html">main piece</a>. </p>
<p>Other views include:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sacbee.com/740/story/1161254-p3.html">UC Davis Professor Daniel Sumner</a>, who says eating locally is not necessarily best for the environment, the poor or the farmers.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sacbee.com/740/story/1161254-p3.html">Shawn Harrison</a>, co-founder of Soil Born Farms, an urban farming operation in Sacramento that promotes local and urban agriculture.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sacbee.com/740/story/1161254-p3.html">Jennifer Cliff</a>, publisher of Edible Sacramento, who says she has devoted herself to increasing public awareness of the need to eat locally.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><b>Some food for thought:</b></p>
<p>31,900- Number of jobs involved with food production, processing, support and distribution in the Sacramento region as of 2004.<br /></p>
<p>1,300 - Number of jobs lost in these industries since 2001. <br /></p>
<p>2.5 million - Number of acres of farmland in the Sacramento region, as of 2005. <br /></p>
<p>277,226 - Number of acres lost to development and other uses since 1988. <br /></p>
<p>2.2 million - Tons of rice produced in the Sacramento Valley in 2007. <br /></p>
<p>242,000 - Estimated tonnage of California rice sold to California consumers each year. <br /></p>
<p>Sources: California Economic Strategy Panel; Sacramento Area Council of Governments; California Rice Commission. </p>
<p><b>Here are some links to other sources of information on this topic.</b></p>
<p><a href="http://www.sacbee.com/995/story/894027.html">SacBee interactive link to local farmer's markets</a>&nbsp;<br /><br /><a href="http://www.sacog.org/rucs/">Sacramento Area Council of Governments&nbsp;Rural-Urban Connections Strategy</a>&nbsp;<br /><br /><a href="http://www.caff.org/regions/SacValley.shtml">Community Alliance with Family Farmers&nbsp;<br /></a><br /><a href="http://www.slowfoodsacramento.com/">Slow Food Sacramento&nbsp;<br /></a><br /><a href="http://100milediet.org/">100 Mile Diet&nbsp;<br /></a><br /><a href="http://www.ecovian.com/">Ecovian -- Resource for local food and products</a>&nbsp;<br /></p>
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<entry>
    <title>Locavores</title>
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    <id>tag:www.sacbee.com,2008:/static/weblogs/the_conversation//51.14654</id>

    <published>2008-08-15T23:17:14Z</published>
    <updated>2008-08-15T23:18:30Z</updated>

    <summary><![CDATA[The local foods movement will be the topic of this week's Conversation. Come back starting Sunday to discuss the benefits and potential drawbacks of the movement to encourage everyone to buy as much of their food locally as possible. &nbsp;...]]></summary>
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        <name>Daniel Weintraub</name>
        <email>dweintraub@sacbee.com</email>
        
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        <![CDATA[<p>The local foods movement will be the topic of this week's Conversation. Come back starting Sunday to discuss the benefits and potential drawbacks of the movement to encourage everyone to buy as much of their food locally as possible.</p>
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<entry>
    <title>Where would you cut?</title>
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    <published>2008-08-10T10:00:00Z</published>
    <updated>2008-08-11T17:04:24Z</updated>

    <summary>Click here to comment now. In this week&apos;s Conversation, we want to know where, if anywhere, you&apos;d cut state spending. Over the past five years, California&apos;s population has grown by 7 percent, and inflation has been 17 percent. But general...</summary>
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        <name>Daniel Weintraub</name>
        <email>dweintraub@sacbee.com</email>
        
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<p>In this week's Conversation, we want to know where, if anywhere, you'd cut state spending.</p>
<p>Over the past five years, California's population has grown by 7 percent, and inflation has been 17 percent. But general fund spending has increased by about $26 billion, or 33 percent during that same period.</p><br />
<p><a href="http://www.sacbee.com/740/story/1143508.html">Here</a> is some additional background, and the views of four citizen-observers.<br /><br /></p>
<p>Join the Conversation by commenting below. Let us know where you would cut, or if you'd cut at all. Thanks! </p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>UPDATE. Here is a graphic I produced for an earlier column showing the growth in state spending by category during the past five years.</p>
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<entry>
    <title>Bringing out the knives</title>
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    <id>tag:www.sacbee.com,2008:/static/weblogs/the_conversation//51.14424</id>

    <published>2008-08-07T18:20:22Z</published>
    <updated>2008-08-07T18:24:14Z</updated>

    <summary>This week&apos;s Conversation will ask our readers where they would cut the state budget if they were given the opportuhity, or if they were forced to do so. We&apos;ll provide a little background on the growth in state spending over...</summary>
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        <name>Daniel Weintraub</name>
        <email>dweintraub@sacbee.com</email>
        
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week's Conversation will ask our readers where they would cut the state budget if they were given the opportuhity, or if they were forced to do so.</p>
<p>We'll provide a little background on the growth in state spending over the past five years, overall and by major category.</p>
<p>We'll share some one-line descriptions of spending cuts that are already on the table, and offer the ideas&nbsp;of four citizen-observers from around the state to get the discussion going.</p>
<p>And then we'll turn it over to the readers and ask, Where would you cut?</p>
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    <title>The Demonization of suburbia</title>
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    <published>2008-08-03T12:25:10Z</published>
    <updated>2008-08-05T23:36:56Z</updated>

    <summary><![CDATA[&nbsp; Click here to comment on this week's topic. &nbsp; UPDATE: Thanks to everyone who has commented so far! We at the Bee are still finding our way with this new undertaking, and it's pretty evident that our packaging this...]]></summary>
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        <name>Daniel Weintraub</name>
        <email>dweintraub@sacbee.com</email>
        
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<p><b>UPDATE: Thanks to everyone who has commented so far! We at the Bee are still finding our way with this new undertaking, and it's pretty evident that our packaging this morning was not conducive to getting a conversation started. People are commenting on each of the pieces, which is great, but those comments are then segregated from each other rather than part of one big discussion. So I have gone into those pieces and copied the comments to the bottom of the blog here. I hope that helps. --Daniel</b><br /><br /><br />Are Sacramento planners trying too hard to force the region's residents to live in small homes in densely populated neighborhoods? What's your vision for the way the region should grow in the years ahead? Comment below.<br /><br />In this week's Conversation, urbanist <a href="http://www.sacbee.com/740/story/1127379.html">Joel Kotkin</a> suggests that Sacramento's regional planners are too focused on forcing suburban residents out of their single-family homes and into smaller houses or condos in densely packed urban neighborhoods<br /><br />An excerpt:<br /></p>
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<p>Although a healthier downtown with reasonable density is good for the entire region, the high-density focus does not make a good fit for a predominately middle class, family-oriented region such as Sacramento. Unlike an elite city like San Francisco, Sacramento's growth has been fueled by an influx of educated, family-oriented residents - the populations that have been fleeing such high-priced places where the housing supply is constrained.</p>
<p>Long-term demographic trends, and perhaps common sense, suggest that most people do not move to Sacramento to indulge in a "hip and cool" urban lifestyle. If someone craves the excitement, bright lights and glamorous industries of a dense city, River City pales compared with places like San Francisco, New York or Los Angeles.</p>
<p>The fact Sacramento has fared far better than these cities over the past 15 years suggests the region's recent problems lie not in a lack of downtown condos and nightlife, but with a housing market that, as in much of California, has been totally out of whack. Once a consistently affordable locale, by the mid-1990s Sacramento's housing prices jumped almost nine times income growth, an unsustainable pace seen in a few areas such as Riverside, Miami and Los Angeles.</p>
<p>As a result, the refugees from the coastal counties who had been coming to Sacramento for affordable housing stopped arriving. Net migration to the region, more than 36,000 in 2001, fell to less than 1,000 in 2006.</p>
<p>Ultimately only a housing market correction will again lure the people who have come to Sacramento seeking single-family houses - the type of home favored by about 80 percent of Californians - back to the region. Evidence that these people, or current suburbanites, might flock back to the core city is thin at best. The failures of such high-profile projects as The Towers and the region's stagnant rental market do not suggest a seismic shift toward denser living.</p></blockquote><br />Developer <a href="http://www.sacbee.com/325/story/1127388.html">Levi Benkert</a>, meanwhile, says the region should have a strict urban growth limit to create an open-space buffer and force new housing and commercial development to fill the spaces closest to the urban core.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.sacbee.com/325/story/1127387.html">Mike McKeever</a>, director of the Sacramento Area Council of Governments, writes that the&nbsp; region's Blueprint for growth encourages dense development around the core of existing population concentrations in Sacramento, Roseville-Rocklin and Rancho-Cordova-Folsom.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.sacbee.com/325/story/1127386.html">Barbara Hayes</a>, who recruits businesses to bring their operations to the Sacramento region, says employers look at taxes and fees but also affordable housing, transportation issues, education and parks before deciding whether to move to this area. 
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